51% ([info]nakedvegan) wrote,
2005-07-15 02:28:00
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Tour rules!

So when did abandoning your ideals for social acceptance become all the rage? I must have missed that shit. Its weird. Maybe I am just staying the same while so many people are "growing up", but I didn't think that self destruction was part of the package. I never thought I'd see so many smiling faces turn sour and so many fun kids turn into fucking lushes. Lets get pysched about life again! I am sick of bars and drunk dance parties becoming the only place to hang. Let's do something fun together. Let's be friends again. Your apathy is killing me.

ps if you start smoking cigarettes after you are 16 years old, you are fucking crazy! Cut it out!

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[info]nakedvegan

July 15 2005, 07:30:22 UTC 6 years ago

ps... actually... if you start smoking cigarettes ever you are fucking crazy.

[info]below_the_belt

July 15 2005, 11:41:40 UTC 6 years ago

jorddddddddddaaaaan.
+ crazy is a concept made up to alienate and exploit a whole lot of people. fuck that.
+ i started smoking when i was 15, am i cool? j/k. what a stupid idea. that'll sure never happen again.
+ mostly this: oh my god you're so right. fuck apathy, fuck growing up. friends time. fun kidz. the boozing is getting me down.
+ also stop going away, okay? i've never been to allentown in my life and i want to visit you so stay there.

[info]frequency9

July 15 2005, 16:01:19 UTC 6 years ago

are you in allentown now? i might visit the cove this weekend, and it would be great if that meant visiting you too.

[info]nakedvegan

July 15 2005, 17:01:04 UTC 6 years ago

shanon!

I am on tour with carpenter ant and will be home on the 20th and then I leave again on the 25th! How are you doing?

[info]frequency9

6 years ago

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[info]xbrady

July 15 2005, 17:34:57 UTC 6 years ago

Jordan, I agree wholeheartedly. I know, I know, I broke edge, but still, fuck drunken dance parties and definitely fuck bars. I am still psyched on being a +youth. When you come back, do you want to record the new V-Town Concrete demo? We're making real shirts too. I'm psyched. I'm also psyched for you to get home!!!

[info]abcission

July 15 2005, 19:09:07 UTC 6 years ago

(hey jordan, it's alison - add me as a friend, if you wanna!)
hear hear! I think this trend is a scourge. but I don't think it's alcohol that's really the culprit, but alcohol/drug *culture*. the idea that drinking automatically equals fun/rebellion/excitement, the sense of bars as THE place for fun. fuck that shit.

I don't think you've missed something, I think it's a cycle that some people go through. there was this point in college where all my friends suddenly were doing cocaine. soooo whack. some of em still do, and they've got this life in the NYC where they think they're wicked hip and they go to bars all the time and wear ugly clothes and spend lots of money, and hang out with all the same people they did in college.
and when I talk to them about what my life is like, they're stunned. the idea of having a garden, of constantly meeting new people, and having art-making plans with people instead of going out drinking is totally alien to them.
and once I asked my friend jon why he was doing all this bullshit, since he knew it was hollow, and he was like "well, I just feel like right now is my time to be irresponsible and dumb, before I have to grow up".
and I think they think *I'm* acting like a grownup, cuz i'm settled, and kinda drama-free, and not doing "crazy" stuff while totally smashed every night.
but the thing is: this is the kid I was when I was 8, too. and it's who I'll be when I'm 40. I might haveta be responsible about some things (and having a kid to take care of increases this exponentially), but climbing trees is always going to be fun. and I don't need to drink to not act like an adult; shit, that's easy.
I think the reason a lot of people focus so much on drinking when they get older is this weird combination of a sense that it's "what adults do" but also "it's how to stay young and wild".
but I don't think it's the alcohol that's the problem. I think it's those two super dumb ideas.

some people come out of it, some people don't. I'm super glad to live in a place where people who aren't into that crap congregate. I hope I always will.

also, cigarettes always suck.
hearts! and fun for life, even if I have to do some dishes first!
alison.

[info]nakedvegan

July 15 2005, 19:22:07 UTC 6 years ago

I agree... and I don;t think its the alcohol either. I mean Brad started drinking but he is still a fun fucking dude. Its just furstrating going around the country and seeing kids who you haven't seen in a while and then finding out that they replaced caring about shit and having fun with going to bars and being apathetic. That sucks

[info]below_the_belt

July 16 2005, 00:37:05 UTC 6 years ago

i'll drink [a nice refreshing glass of water] to that!

ps is your pee clear?

pps only a month and a half till i can help you in the garden and fun sweet wonderful responsible ridiculous nice things that happen when you are growing but not grown and not being a tool.

[info]marine_corpse

July 15 2005, 19:22:47 UTC 6 years ago

yup yup. i love drunken dance parties and all (of course i think they're better when people don't need to drink but anyway).. but it really is weird, the whole "growing up" thing. I was just writing about it not long ago. Hopefully people can figure out balancing more comfortable things with more important things.

Also on a somewhat related note, i was reading an article on the unfortunate capture of prolific DC anarchist graffiti dude Borf where, when talking about his stencil "grown ups are obsolete" he says something to the effect of, "Yeah, growing up is giving up. Some band said that I think."

[info]below_the_belt

July 16 2005, 00:38:27 UTC 6 years ago

wasn't peter pan in that band?

[info]xbrady

6 years ago

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[info]ive_got_the_sxe

July 15 2005, 19:43:17 UTC 6 years ago

Shits complicated. I hang out with kids that use drugs as an escape and I feel like it will always stand in the way of us compleatly relating and loving each other.

[info]saintjacques

July 15 2005, 20:10:57 UTC 6 years ago

i vote everyone watch an arnold schwartzenegger movie with commentary with their friends and life will seem so much better and more fun. i am psyched for you to get back jordan!

[info]lilsallywalker

July 16 2005, 02:01:46 UTC 6 years ago

hey when i saw david on long island he said you were all coming here on tour...is this true?! when!?

[info]lilsallywalker

July 17 2005, 05:02:30 UTC 6 years ago

p.s.

FUCKING S HUNT THAT NIGHT BTW

[info]agirlnamed

July 16 2005, 10:19:55 UTC 6 years ago

i hope i get to see you at some point during those 5 days jordan. i'd challenge some of your arguments, but i agree with the overall point, or at least what i think your overall point is. certain of my ideals have been seriously challenged (if not abandoned) over the last nine months, and i probably have grown up a lot, and i still like to drink (but not quite as much), so maybe i'm going to need you to keep me grounded and posi and call me out if i'm not fun anymore, at least while i'm readjusting to the whole usa thing. good luck with tour!

Anonymous

July 17 2005, 02:25:24 UTC 6 years ago

delia~!

you are home?!! My cell phone number is 610 349 6607. you should call me sometime soon. I want to make plans... I miss you.

<3Jordan

[info]agirlnamed

July 17 2005, 04:48:04 UTC 6 years ago

i'll be home on tuesday. i may be stuck in bed with the flu for several days but i'll call you either way. i miss you too!

[info]an_arab_fuckyou

July 16 2005, 20:14:39 UTC 6 years ago

all my friends are selling out

dear jordan
all my fuckin friends are selling out the vegan edge. i am bumming about it, but nathan and i are keeping it real. i love you and will probably move to allentown someday. -d

[info]humangarbage

July 18 2005, 18:46:11 UTC 6 years ago

Re: all my friends are selling out

i love you daniel

[info]wellihavemine

July 16 2005, 20:36:04 UTC 6 years ago

hell yes we are, dan. i loved allentown and its wonderful to see people who still care about such things, as well as towns that inspire you when you are least expecting inspiration.

[info]sammyboyd

July 17 2005, 00:16:16 UTC 6 years ago

get punk not crunk!

[info]humangarbage

July 18 2005, 18:47:20 UTC 6 years ago

fuck yeah jordan. fuck a buncha eating meat and smoking.

[info]i_am_becca_boo

July 25 2005, 18:53:59 UTC 6 years ago

OmgoodnessIloveyousomuch. Keeping my ideals together when there wasn't anyone around who shared them was one of the toughest things I ever did...now I don't have to worry about it because of superfriends like you. XoXoX

[info]xhatchetx

July 26 2005, 05:25:12 UTC 6 years ago

Hey Jordan, what's up!!?

[info]egginahole

August 1 2005, 19:01:12 UTC 6 years ago

hey, remember when we were friends?
it was a long time ago, but it was pretty rad.
lets do that again.
i'm still posi
or at least i try.

xoxo
laura
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